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2020 Chevy Corvette: Engineering Explained does the math on acceleration

A phrase frequently uttered when talking to engineers about what they think their latest creation can do is, “We’ve done the math.” If you want a taste of what kind of math they’re talking about, check out this Engineering Explained video of a whiteboard covered in figures that postulate the potential 0-60 acceleration of the mid-engined 2020 Chevrolet Corvette. If you don’t want a taste of the math but want Jason to explain the crucial whats and whys as he summarizes the sticky bits, then check out this video. It’s not only fascinating, it arrives at a very compelling figure: 2.76 seconds. That’s the potential maximum acceleration of the C8 Corvette with the Z51 package.

Don’t worry, we haven’t spoiled the video for you. One, it’s the journey that matters here, not the destination. Two, there are two more numbers that arise from all the figuring, and they’re more impressive than 2.76 seconds.

The short story is that Jason wants to show how the potential acceleration of the entry-level mid-engined Corvette with the Z51 package can shade the ultimate expression of the front-engined C7 Corvette, the ZR1. The prime mover in moving the stopwatch is Chevy having moved the engine behind the passenger cell, but the new dual-clutch transmission with shifts under 100 milliseconds, aggressive gearing, and the Michelin PS4S tires play roles, too. After that, there’s more speculation about how quickly the C8 might go, and how well it might decelerate.

For any students who want to go further, there’s another number-heavy Engineering Explained video on how to launch a rear-wheel-drive car that dissects center-of-gravity and frictional coefficients. Enjoy. And make sure you pay attention to the shapes of the tires.

Mid-engine Chevy Corvette spied showing off new angles

It’s been some time since we last saw Chevrolet’s upcoming mid-engine Corvette out testing. The last time, it is was a race version at Road America with a gigantic wing. Prior to that, we saw the road-going version launching at the track, and cruising around in traffic. Now, we have new photos from our spies in Germany, and they give us a better look at the upcoming halo car at the Nürburgring.

While still wearing a lot of camouflage, this wrapper is mostly form-fitting, without a lot of the plastic cladding previous testers have been draped in. We can see the car’s pointed nose, with lots of ventilation beneath. The lighting we see likely will change significantly for the production model. We can also see huge air intakes on the sides of the car. Unfortunately, the rear glass is still covered, but it’ll have at least one V8 engine option available, which is rumored to be mated to a seven-speed dual-clutch transmission.

We expect the mid-engine Corvette will launch next year as a 2020 model. Chevrolet has trademarked the name “Corvette E-Ray,” so there’s possibly an electrified version in our future. We’re not sure if that will likely be applied to the C7 or to the mid-engine Corvette, but we’d love to see either join the recent trend of hybrid supercars like the Mercedes-AMG Project One.

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Mid-engine Corvette spied with C5-style nose, dual rear calipers

Once again, a mid-engine Chevy Corvette prototype has been spotted in the wild, and this one reveals even more new details. They include hints at the front-end design, a look at the steering wheel, and a preview of the brakes.

Starting from the front we can see on the passenger-side of the front bumper, the grille opening seems to end toward the center of the car. This is very much like the design of the 1997-2005 C5 Corvette. This could also mean that the center portion of the bumper could double as a location to mount a front license plate, but it could also just as easily be a styling feature. The grilles on each side also appear to be quite large. Additionally, the headlights look more horizontal than those on the current C7.

These photos also give us a small glimpse into the cockpit of the new mid-engine Corvette where we can see the steering wheel. It has a distinctive flat top to it, probably to give it the look of a race car steering wheel. It won’t be the first to have a flat-top wheel (and presumably flat-bottom wheel), as the Ford GT has a similar design.

Back on the outside, we get a close look at the brakes, and the rears look interesting. We can see two sets of calipers over the rear rotors. The fronts appear to have just single sets of calipers, but they look like beefy ones.

We may see the mid-engine corvette revealed next year, but it could also get pushed to 2020. We’ve seen evidence of both a naturally aspirated V8, possibly an iteration of the 6.2-liter LT1 engine, and a twin-turbo V8, which could be a 4.2- or 5.5-liter V8. Since Cadillac’s former boss has said it doesn’t want to share its 4.2-liter twin-turbo V8, we could see the 5.5-liter as being more likely, possibly even a bored and stroked version of the Cadillac 4.2-liter.

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Chevy C8 mid-engine Corvette hits public streets

After years of watching the mid-engine Chevy Corvette C8 behind proving ground fencing, we finally get a look at the super ‘Vette on public roads. These spy shots show the car out testing along with a Porsche 911 Carrera S and two C7 Corvettes. The one behind the 911 appears to be a Z06, and a ZR1 can be spotted in the background of another photo.

Visually, there isn’t much new here compared with the last C8 we saw. We get glimpses of the rear diffuser and exhaust tips, as well as the side skirts. They appear to be unchanged. Those side skirts do reveal part of what looks to be a fairly large intake vent along the side, which considering the car’s engine placement isn’t surprising.

We do see two sets of wheels that look production ready. The first appeared on the prototype we saw in the winter. The other is flashier with the centers of the spokes featuring a machined or polished finish along with small black-painted spokes coming off the centers.

Long ago, it appeared that the mid-engine Corvette would appear in 2019. While still possible, we also wouldn’t be surprised if that gets moved further down the calendar. CAD drawings have revealed both naturally aspirated and twin-turbocharged V8 engines in mid-engine placements. The naturally aspirated engine is probably a version of the current LT1 pushrod engine found in the C7 Corvette Stingray and Grand Sport, as well as the Camaro SS. The twin-turbo engine appears to be new and is double-overhead cam. Though it would be natural to assume the Bowling Green-built twin-turbocharged 4.2-liter V8 going in the CT6 V-Sport, but former Cadillac boss Johan de Nysschen said that wasn’t going to happen. But, the Corvette might get a version of it with more displacement. Previous rumors have mentioned a 5.5-liter engine, and a 4.2-liter engine was mentioned in those same rumors.

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Sunday Drive: From a mid-engine ‘Vette to a restomod RV

Automotive enthusiasts are a diverse bunch. As proof, we present last week’s top posts on Autoblog, starting with some really good spy photos of the upcoming mid-engine Chevrolet Corvette. Will it be sold alongside a classic front-engine ‘Vette? We have no idea, but we can’t wait to find out.

Up next is a pickup truck. Can’t get much further from a supercar, right? At least both the Corvette and the 2019 Ram 1500 – which will debut a radical new design that appears to eschew the mini big-rig look of past Rams in favor of something more refined – are both American.

Decidedly not American? The Mercedes-Benz G-Class SUV. The boxy off-road ‘ute looks a heck of a lot like the old one, which is probably a good thing, but we know it’ll be fancier and more luxurious than ever before. Check out the leaked images below.

Also hailing from Germany, but sharing absolutely nothing else in common at all, is the Audi A4 Allroad. We’ve been driving this all-wheel-drive wagon for a while now, and we like it quite a bit. And, last but not least, is a 1959 bus that’s been converted into an RV.

Like we said, y’all certainly are a diverse bunch.

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Mid-engine Corvette — our clearest pictures yet

Hurray, high resolution! Spy photographers have delivered the highest-quality pictures yet of the future mid-engine Chevrolet Corvette, this time as it was undergoing winter testing in the Arctic. This would seem to be the same test mule previously spotted from high-above a test track and at a McDonald’s, but these provide the best glimpse yet of what we might expect from a mid-engine Corvette, or whatever this ends up being. The only difference seems to be the wheels and tires, but that’s because of the snow.

At the very least, we can now spot that despite having its engine in the back, this Corvette maintains a removable, targa-style roof. We can now clearly make out the lines at the windshield header and across the B-pillar/roll bar. We can also spot that there is clearly an air intake underneath the square-ish black side panel — as if the enormous rear end and short front-end weren’t already enough of a mid-engine tipoff. (Question: Is the area aft of the backlight large enough to fit the removed roof and perhaps a trunk like the original Acura NSX?)

Also, from what we can make out of the fascia beneath all that black camo, there’s very little to dissuade from the ongoing belief that this will indeed be a Corvette. Whether it’s a C7 replacement or an addition to a new Corvette family is still anyone’s guess at this point.

In any event, enjoy flipping through the pics … as if you haven’t already.

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Secrets of the next Corvette’s engine and lineup, all figured out (we think)

We’ve taped up the windows and covered all available whiteboard and wall space with printouts, spy shots, sketches and maps of Bowling Green and Upstate New York. Hundreds of pushpins dot prominent points; miles of red strings connect them all. Data scientists call this link analysis. The cleaning people call it a nuisance.

The subject of our insanity? The upcoming mid-engine Corvette, the DOHC Corvette and, finally, the big-wing-toting Corvette ZR-1. Our deductive sleuthing tells us that all of these things are, finally, real. The evidence has been right in front of us for months. GM’s been hiding its plan in plain sight and we think we’ve cracked the code. Pore over our clues, follow along with our reasoning, and see if you agree with our conclusions.

(Note: We didn’t reach out to GM on any of this. They don’t comment on future vehicles, and we don’t want to waste their time.)

Dual Overhead Cam V8 Corvette? Really?

While the idea – and crummy renderings – of a mid-engine Corvette have sold a billion magazines and generated a trillion clicks, the transition to a DOHC layout should be the one getting everyone’s attention. Since almost the beginning, a big part of the Corvette’s DNA has been Chevy’s overhead valve, Small Block V8. And for good reason; these engines are compact, make great power across the rev band, can return exceptional fuel economy, and provide the reliability and inexpensive repairs that have kept the Corvette an everyman’s sports car for 60 years.

But those rods are pushing their last.

But those rods are pushing their last. We’re reaching the zenith of naturally-aspirated horsepower that any reasonable company would dare slap a warranty on (RIP, LS7), and Corvette buyers are repeat customers who will expect the next ‘Vette to top the C7’s 465 horsepower and 29 mpg. GM is one of the last holdouts on the naturally aspirated V8 and one of only two firms still offering it with pushrods. If GM wants to keep the V8, meet ever-stricter CAFE requirements, and continue to delight fans of the Corvette, something needs to change.

GM has done everything it can to keep the small block alive. Aluminum block and heads, direct injection, cylinder deactivation, variable valve timing. The next step is to either join the forced-induction party or admit the limitations of a two-valve motor and, literally, step up their cam game. The improved breathing and timing optimization afforded by four valves per cylinder and variable valve-timing-and-lift would get them there without a single person on the internet screaming about lag.

Oh, and let’s not forget that leaked document from late last year that confirmed a DOHC LT5 V8 for a Y chassis car.

Is it Doable?

The anti-DOHC naysayers will say that it requires a whole new engine block, and GM isn’t going to replace the Gen V engine so soon or spend the money on dual V8 lines. The argument also says overhead cams create a prohibitively tall engine for the available space. Let’s dispel both of these right now thanks to our friends at Mercury Marine. Yes, that Mercury Marine. The company that Chevy contracted to build the Lotus Engineering-designed DOHC LT-5 V8 motor that powered the legendary Corvette ZR-1 in the 1990s.

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After teasing the concept for a few years, at the 2016 SEMA show Mercury Racing, the go-fast subdivision of Mercury Marine, launched its 750 horsepower, 8,000 rpm SB4 7.0 automotive crate motor. Based off of GM’s 7.0-liter LS7, the SB4 does away with GM’s valvetrain and swaps in their own 32-valve DOHC setup. On this engine, the new overhead cams are driven by a dual-belt system. A straightforward dual-roller timing chain setup is mounted on the front of the motor off the crank. We’ve reached out to Mercury Marine for clarification on what happens with the now-vacant in-block cam-hole and will update the story if we hear back. In Chevy’s case, it could cast a new block that plugs the oiling holes, but would need to reserve this tunnel for a prop shaft. The Corvette’s high-pressure fuel pump is driven off the back of the camshaft, so any changes to that would necessitate a fix for the pump, too.

Chevy’s LS3 stands a tidy 17.72 inches tall from the centerline of the crank to the top of the intake. Mercury Marine’s DOHC, measures 17.1 inches from the crank centerline to the top of the throttle bodies. Of course, there are some differences in the intake systems that could account for this difference, but the point remains that converting an LS motor from pushrod to DOHC does not add enough height to kill the project. Especially not when you’re talking about an engine that could return 600 horsepower without forced induction.

This is important for a couple of reasons. Remember that we’re not talking about a new engine for an all-new car here, folks. According to our leaked document above, this is going to be dropped sometime in 2018 while a new, C8 Corvette shouldn’t be expected until 2021 at the earliest. Not only does this new motor need to fit vertically, but it needs to fit in the same mounts as the current OHV motor. New hood? Easy. Potentially relocating the whole powertrain? Not so much. The above solution as proven by Mercury Marine solves both of these problems.

Is GM ready for this change?

As we’ve previously speculated, GM’s absurdly massive investment in a “paint shop” in Bowling Green is more than enough to launch another vehicle line, so swapping in a new motor won’t rock the boat. What we didn’t know then was that GM was about to put $295 million into its Tonawanda engine facility, where Corvette 6.2-liter V8s are made, to support “future engine production.” Steve Finch, Tonawanda’s plant manager, was quoted by the Buffalo News as saying that the new engines “would represent the next step for the plant’s existing ‘Generation V’ engine line.” Kathleen Dilworth, GM manufacturing director told the same paper, “They’re going into future vehicle products that we’re not prepared to announce yet, for competitive reasons.”

To put this $295 million number in perspective, the 2010 investment in Tonawanda to build the Gen V small-block was $400 million. That investment should be enough for a significant valvetrain upgrade, especially as this motor will also be spread across the pickup truck line.

Whaaaaat?

Alongside the nonsense “it won’t fit!” naysayers are the armchair MBAs who argue that GM is too focused on the bottom line and too obsessed with scale to do another expensive one-off engine line. These people are onto something. GM isn’t going to architect this updated motor just for the Corvette; we see it replacing all of the V8s.

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The Gen V small block, introduced on the 2014 Corvette Stingray, found its way into the redesigned GMT K2XX trucks/full-size SUVs as the EcoTec3 in both 6.2 and 5.3-liter configurations. Any new development for the Corvette’s powertrain, besides the silly performance motors, needs to be flexible enough to do work across the whole GM portfolio.

Considering this, the timing is too perfect. For 2016, Silverado sales were down while nearly every other truck posted gains. Ford, specifically, is making gains with its lineup of efficient-according-to-the-EPA EcoBoost motors and aluminum bodies. GM needs to do something. A DOHC V8 would increase power and efficiency with minimal costs and no silly (and expensive) turbos. Finally, with the release of the new Chevy Tahoe RST, Cadillac and GMC need a hi-po engine offering to keep those profit machines rolling. We’re guessing we’ll see the first of these in 2018 as 2019 MY.

But first, we’ll see it in:

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The big-wing, front-engine car (ZR-1)

To be fair, this is the weakest part of our argument, but stick with it. We’ve seen spy shots of this one (we’ll call it ZR-1 henceforth) a few times now, but haven’t gotten a good sense of what’s powering it. For a while, we were on the side of the fence that follows GM’s current pattern and assumed that the new ZR-1 would be the track-focused big-brother to the Z06. Think Chevy’s ACR.

That theory makes sense not only from a GM product strategy viewpoint, but would help explain why GM had rented out Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca for testing. Launching a new performance benchmark for your brand makes a bigger splash when you can say you’ve taken back the production car lap record from the Viper ACR. In this worldview, the ZR-1 doesn’t need more power or a new motor, it simply needs better tires, suspension and aero. Easy(ish). Trouble is, this totally reasonable plan doesn’t solve our problem with the leaked document showing a DOHC Corvette in 2018.

This only leaves one possibility: The ZR-1 introduces the DOHC motor back into the Corvette family with 650 naturally aspirated horsepower (a nice number that is more ponies than the ACR and more horsepower/liter than the Mustang Shelby GT350), an 8,000-rpm redline and the production-car track record at Laguna Seca.

For 2019, we bet that the DOHC motor trickles down into the rest of the Corvette lineup (excluding Z06) with 500 horsepower, a lower redline and 31 mpg highway fuel economy rating. And while we’re just spitballing here, don’t be surprised if the high-power DOHC engine wiggles into a Z28-style Camaro.

The mid-engine Corvette

So where does this leave the “Corvette” with the engine in the middle? Glad you asked!
There are obviously a number of hurdles for the mid-engine car to clear: 65 years of front-engined heritage, the everyman image, and the possible consumer resistance to a $150,000-plus Chevy. The mid-engine car needs to be a true halo product. A brand builder. And because it’s a Corvette (of sorts) it needs to punch above its weight from a performance perspective.

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Which means that the mid-engine Corvette is going to have a souped-up version of the new family DOHC motor with a higher redline, higher peak horsepower and torque, and an inline electric motor.

Yeah. We think it’s gonna be a hybrid.

Where else can they go? Chevy’s already got a 650 horsepower Z06 in the stable, matching or barely beating that power figure for potentially double the price doesn’t work. AWD is cheating. (Besides, AWD could be reserved for a Cadillac version of this mid-engine flagship…the one that gets the 4.2-liter turbocharged V6. Think Audi R8 vs Lamborghini Gallardo here.) Supercharging could work, but it doesn’t provide enough model separation from the Z06, engine-wise. Not only does a hybrid powertrain system avoid any confusion/cross-shopping with the traditional Corvette, but it leapfrogs any domestic or foreign competition and launches the mid-engine Corvette smack into keyboard wars with the LaFerrari and McLaren P1. Especially if Chevy forgoes the obvious front axle e-motor solution and keeps the mid engine Corvette rear-wheel drive. This layout would fit with Corvette’s heritage and falls more in line with the driver-focused, tire-slaying nature of both Corvette customers and the engineers inside of Chevy.

Something like this integrated motor generator unit from Bosch which produces over 100 horsepower and nearly 300 torques would allow GM to tweak the gasoline motor for top-end power while letting the electric motor handle low-end torque fill. And that’s just an off-the-shelf solution; remember that Bosch was the electrification partner Porsche chose for the 918. If the two companies forge a serious partnership on this project, there’s no reason to doubt that the result would be one of the fastest, most technologically advanced supercars in the world.

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